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Exclusive Interview: Michael Dukakis

By David Emer

On May 7, 2002, Michael Dukakis explained his views to me regarding Amtrak during these tough times for the company. Michael Dukakis has served on the Amtrak board as vice-chairman since June of 1998. He was the governor of Massachusetts and the 1988 Democratic Presidential Nominee. Currently, he is a distinguished professor at Northeastern University.

Q: Amtrak has insisted that it needs $1.2 billion from congress. If Amtrak receives this money what priorities will it be used for to accomplish first?

A: The 1.2 billion will be used for essential capital investments and some operating assistance for our long distance lines.  160 million of it, regrettably, goes directly to the railroad retirement fund for employees who never worked for us!  So the 1.2, along with state capital funds, is really just a little bit over one billion to do the job and develop a dozen already designated high-speed corridors.  That’s about five percent of what we spend in federal funds every year for highways and airports.

Q: Do you agree with former President and CEO George Warrington that Amtrak has a conflicting mission to make money and to provide a service to the country? 

A: I don’t think there is any conflict between trying to make an operating profit and providing service to underserved communities.  On the other hand, unless and until we get the capital funding from Congress invest in money making high speed corridors, we will need continuing subsidies for the long distance trains.

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